I have just finished reading a
rather dull book which purported to illustrate the link between the cosmos and the human psyche by means of a comparison of the movements of the
outer planets (Jupiter to Pluto) and their conjunctions and
oppositions with human thought and activity which took place at the same time. The author did not claim that the planets influenced human
behaviour but that their positions in the heavens, as viewed from Earth, were a
kind of snapshot of a moment in time, and that the two, outer movement and
inner behaviour, could be correlated. The idea is that particular periods have
particular qualities which are expressed in both human psychology and planetary
positions with these latter almost like the hands of a clock. This is not a new
idea and actually makes more sense than traditional ideas of
cause and effect, though educated astrologers always had a more nuanced sense of how astrology works than that.
The book is dull because with an almost relentless thoroughness the author produces
page after page of lists of what was happening at various points in history during certain planetary configurations. For example, he equates the Uranus/Pluto
conjunction with revolution (Uranus) that reaches right down to the depths of
consciousness and society (Pluto) and sees this as operative in the 1960s
which, of course, was a decade of turbulent change. He goes back through
history to the French Revolution when the same factors occurred, and then sees
how this particular aspect worked out in the lives of prominent individuals.
This is all well and good, and I don't dispute that there is a correlation of
some kind, but he belabours the point so much it becomes tedious. He also ignores
movements that were occurring at the time of these planetary patterns that do
not fit his thesis so the whole thing becomes a little selective.
Another problem from my point of view is that for all the matching
up of world events and planetary aspects he does, it all only makes sense with
the benefit of hindsight. The archetypes represented by the planets (which I
would not dispute) have so many levels of interpretation that, while you can't
say anything goes, an awful lot does. They can work out in so many different
ways, as is to be expected given the varying factors of human consciousness, free will
and levels of awareness, that you really cannot say what will occur at a given
time except in the very broadest of terms. Apparently just before 9/11 some
astrologers were anticipating the possibility of a terrorist attack but not
when, where or how so what's the use? Also, terrorist attacks take place all
the time in various parts of the world. Are these all signposted too?
But, more than any of this, I would take issue with the idea that
there is something going on here that could be called spiritual. The point of the book was that astrology could act as a corrective to the 'disenchantment' of the universe that came about following the abandonment of the geocentric model of the world and the rise of materialistic science. I absolutely agree that there is an urgent need to come back to the idea of the universe as a creation and one in which the Creator is still ceaselessly active and present but astrology by itself really doesn't do this. It can put a spoke in the wheels of materialism but, unless completely subordinated to a genuinely spiritual view in which God is front and centre, it remains a psychological tool only. There was no mention of God in this book though the usual vague spirituality without religion was there. But this form of spirituality has been around since at least the 1960s and it has completely failed to change anything or anybody unless it has been used as a stepping stone to something more serious and less concerned with human potential or self-fulfilment. It is also powerless in the face of the increasing leftist secularisation of the world, being all too easily absorbed into that.
The author of this book gives example after example of historical events that seem to correspond to contemporary astrological conditions but ends up admitting that all these must be interpreted in terms of archetypes which can be expressed in countless different ways. I think he is right but this doesn't really get us anywhere other than to say that something may be going on but we have no idea what it is. And this is the problem with astrology. It can be fascinating to study, and if you do seriously study it you will see that the basic principles behind it must be correct, but it's actually fairly useless. Yes, you can get a certain amount of insight about yourself and others but no more than you could get by getting to know yourself or others properly anyway with the added risk that you might then try to fit everything about a person into the astrological bottle and thereby actually limit your understanding. If a person must correspond to their horoscope, you are reducing that person to a formula. I know astrologers will say that all horoscopes must be interpreted in context but the point remains. The context aspect mitigates it slightly but it does not remove it.
I have been interested in astrology and written about it a little bit but I don't think it has anything to do with proper spirituality and can actually be a distraction. The reason is that it belongs to the phenomenal world. There are schools that have tried to introduce a spiritual form of astrology and link it to reincarnation but, setting aside the speculative nature of that, there's no real value in it. It's still all to do with the unreconstructed, fallen self. I believe in reincarnation but I don't think knowledge of our previous lives would help us much in this one, interesting as it might be. Spirituality is about coordinating your soul with God and the rest is peripheral. Seek ye first the kingdom of heaven etc.
Despite all I have just written I note that the planet Neptune (the green trident at about 1 o'clock in the chart below) will shortly cross my midheaven (marked MC). The midheaven which is the point at the top of the chart, where the sun would be if you were born at midday, represents your direction in life, your goals and purpose. Neptune is the planet associated with the soul, imagination, mysticism but also, on the negative side, drugs and illusion. It represents ego transcendence on the one hand but also the loss of the sense of self that might occur in psychological breakdown. When a planet touches an important point on the birth horoscope it sets off a reaction (speaking in causative terminology) so I shall be interested to see what happens in the next couple of years. But my point is that knowing that something might happen doesn't matter to me one way or the other, particularly if I don't know what it is or how it might work out. The spiritual attitude is not to be bothered about the future but simply seek to walk in the light of God now. When all is said and done, it seems to me that astrology is mostly of interest to the ego and its concerns.
The author of this book gives example after example of historical events that seem to correspond to contemporary astrological conditions but ends up admitting that all these must be interpreted in terms of archetypes which can be expressed in countless different ways. I think he is right but this doesn't really get us anywhere other than to say that something may be going on but we have no idea what it is. And this is the problem with astrology. It can be fascinating to study, and if you do seriously study it you will see that the basic principles behind it must be correct, but it's actually fairly useless. Yes, you can get a certain amount of insight about yourself and others but no more than you could get by getting to know yourself or others properly anyway with the added risk that you might then try to fit everything about a person into the astrological bottle and thereby actually limit your understanding. If a person must correspond to their horoscope, you are reducing that person to a formula. I know astrologers will say that all horoscopes must be interpreted in context but the point remains. The context aspect mitigates it slightly but it does not remove it.
I have been interested in astrology and written about it a little bit but I don't think it has anything to do with proper spirituality and can actually be a distraction. The reason is that it belongs to the phenomenal world. There are schools that have tried to introduce a spiritual form of astrology and link it to reincarnation but, setting aside the speculative nature of that, there's no real value in it. It's still all to do with the unreconstructed, fallen self. I believe in reincarnation but I don't think knowledge of our previous lives would help us much in this one, interesting as it might be. Spirituality is about coordinating your soul with God and the rest is peripheral. Seek ye first the kingdom of heaven etc.
Despite all I have just written I note that the planet Neptune (the green trident at about 1 o'clock in the chart below) will shortly cross my midheaven (marked MC). The midheaven which is the point at the top of the chart, where the sun would be if you were born at midday, represents your direction in life, your goals and purpose. Neptune is the planet associated with the soul, imagination, mysticism but also, on the negative side, drugs and illusion. It represents ego transcendence on the one hand but also the loss of the sense of self that might occur in psychological breakdown. When a planet touches an important point on the birth horoscope it sets off a reaction (speaking in causative terminology) so I shall be interested to see what happens in the next couple of years. But my point is that knowing that something might happen doesn't matter to me one way or the other, particularly if I don't know what it is or how it might work out. The spiritual attitude is not to be bothered about the future but simply seek to walk in the light of God now. When all is said and done, it seems to me that astrology is mostly of interest to the ego and its concerns.
13 comments:
Let me guess, you read that book from Richard Tarnas. I read it also, and agree with your points William. It was a bit of a slog, and at the end I was sort of thinking to myself "well, it's sort of compelling and all but what's the point?". When it comes to astrology or numerology, I prefer the disposition of Robert Bolton's "The Order of the Ages". His metaphysical principles are well grounded, and he leaves room for freedom and virtue. I'll keep a mental note that we are due for "something" in a couple years.
You're right, ted! He did huge amounts of research to come up with nothing in the end or so it seems to me. But that's the way it always seems to be with astrology and similar sciences (if I can use that word) such as the one you mention, numerology. They never really amount to anything of deep value once you've got beyond the point of accepting that there is something there.
Robert Bolton's book is really excellent. It's a great shame he's not better known. The One and the Many is another superb work of his. His style is a bit heavy going at times but his insights more than make up for that.
I liked the work that his daughter has done on the red books of Tolkien and Jung .
Hey, William. It seems you always see ego as a very bad thing. In my opinion it is completely okay to have a healthy, striving ego as long as it doesn't cause harm. Ego,in my opinion, should not be seen as a necessary thing to overcome. Well maybe at the end yes, but for the time you're alive you will have ego and really what you should do is become friends with it since it's your guide through this life after all. And moderate material desires are okay too in my point of view, such as in this case.
I think this is a word problem, Aaron. Ego can mean different things. If it's the individual self then I quite agree with you. But if it's the self-centred me, the greedy, grasping, selfish self, that has to be transcended.
But I'm probably guilty of using the word to mean the two things indiscriminately.
Hello, William. Could you explain the meaning behind people saying “you are the universe”? Is it really true? If so. that would mean we are Gods and creators of it and ultimately deny higher power.
People say all sorts of things. It doesn't mean they are true! Nevertheless there is a sense in which the part (us) contains the whole (the universe) in a kind of stepped down form just as, you might say, drop of water contains the ocean. We can think of ourselves as potential gods (small g) but that is only when we have become one with God which we can only do by going beyond our little selves.
The universe is not in William Wildblood but there is something in him that is the reflection of the universe. He, in himself, is nothing but God is within him. Does that make sense?
If you deny a higher power, you are denying the very thing that gives you access to the whole. Without God we are nothing.
This is quite confusing to be honest :D Especially sice I was raised in a materialistic environment these things seem crazy.
Maybe confusion arises when we try to mix two different metaphysics. I don't subscribe to the eastern non dualistic view. So I would say God creates souls who are not God but can realise a union with him. He does this for the sake of love.
Materialism can't really explain anything so as a description of reality it makes no sense. We are just soaked in it today but that doesn't make it any truer.
But that realisation doesn’t mean we lose our identity right? I think it’s good to have a healthy sense of self. After all, we live in a materialistic society and without it or even without some capacity for greediness etc. we could be very easily be taken advantage of.
Going by my own experience of speaking with the Masters, no. Identity is transformed but it is not lost. That's the Christian view too, and actually it's the only one that makes sense. Nothing good is ever lost though it may be radically changed. God doesn't create something just to destroy it.
Hey, William
So far I’ve really enjoyed reading your blog. In this piece of yours, however I got kind of confused cause beforehand you seemed to acknowledge astrology or just so it seemed to me. Did you change your views on it or what? Cause atleast in my opinion it can be potentially really useful tool not only determining your character or, as you said, things concerning ego but also your own potential shortcomings, spiritual growth barriers and how to overcome them, partnerships and so on. Which can be quite accurate too. You just have to go a bit deeper for all of that to unfold. My two cents anyways though. By the way, this is your natal chart, right?
I do believe that astrology describes something real and is a useful tool to understand one's own and other people's psychology. So, to that extent and in the way you describe, it can be very helpful. I just don't see it as spiritually significant in the sense that it describes what you might call the lower self and the spiritual path is about awakening to truth and beauty of the higher self. But, as you say, its capacity to reveal potential shortcomings and personal blockages can be very enlightening and constructive.
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