tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513199068907090344.post8868509036737146925..comments2024-03-26T16:24:34.218+00:00Comments on Meeting The Masters: Evil is EvilWilliam Wildbloodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13231219533755925897noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513199068907090344.post-69323116790488264662022-05-17T08:03:08.668+00:002022-05-17T08:03:08.668+00:00Fair enough, Moonsphere. No one can do everything ...Fair enough, Moonsphere. No one can do everything and Steiner certainly did a lot. Perhaps he just had the defects of his qualities. I do see Tomberg's teachings as more spiritually useful though and I would still maintain that Steiner is intellectually helpful but can be a spiritual dead end if you are not careful. I also agree about the nebulous sentimentality which is a great phrase!William Wildbloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231219533755925897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513199068907090344.post-32284353662488675152022-05-17T06:52:05.607+00:002022-05-17T06:52:05.607+00:00William, it is important to understand that the mi...William, it is important to understand that the mission of Steiner was not religious per-se, it was about bringing knowledge and truth.<br /><br />One can say he brought one aspect of a trinity of teachings. What you see as a deficit, was actually the mission of two further teachers. Steiner planned to name his successor but died before he could lawfully do so. This has been a source of division with Anthroposophy, but for many, that person was Valentin Tomberg. The third teacher is currently in incarnation, but a veil of mystery surrounds that individuality.<br /><br />Occult knowledge itself may seem prosaic when we compare it to religious revelation. But it is a necessary framework without which religious understanding can so easily dissolve into nebulous sentimentalityMoonspherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015070450886972955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513199068907090344.post-63911932089405369142022-05-16T21:50:46.391+00:002022-05-16T21:50:46.391+00:00I do feel a problem with Steiner is that he is too...I do feel a problem with Steiner is that he is too much the objective clinical scientist intent on building the perfect system of spiritual thought and not enough the simple lover of God. The fact he hardly mentions God ( to my knowledge, I'm by no means a Steiner expert) speaks volumes really.William Wildbloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231219533755925897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513199068907090344.post-45713222932984841152022-05-16T11:47:21.860+00:002022-05-16T11:47:21.860+00:00@William - A lot of people are very vague about th...@William - A lot of people are very vague about the definition and nature of evil - and usually regard it is some kind of utilitarian mortal fashion (killing people, causing suffering etc). <br /><br />Steiner seems to me never to have had a clear idea of the nature of evil because he seemed to have no clear idea of God. He talks almost wholly of angelic powers - in their 3X3-fold Dionysian hierarchies - and almost never writes/ speaks of God the Creator. <br /><br />I don't know what Steiner really thought about God (and the purpose of creation), or whether Steiner was a polytheist of some kind (he often sounds like he regards creation as being administered 'by committee') - or whether he was unsure and therefore avoiding the subject. <br /><br />It may be that Steiner felt himself to be in clairvoyant contact with the angels - and therefore felt confident on that subject - but not with God, and therefore played-down God's nature and intentions. <br /><br />Or maybe he was trying to keep the widest possible range of his followers from being 'turned-of' by too explicit a choice between rival concepts of the divine. Bruce Charltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09615189090601688535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513199068907090344.post-68924472076757061182022-05-13T15:37:25.675+00:002022-05-13T15:37:25.675+00:00Absolutely Lucifer is evil. Our violent tendencie...Absolutely Lucifer is evil. Our violent tendencies which sometimes work toward good don't come from Lucifer anyway, but from the Old Testament God (just read the Old Testament). But sexual perversion comes from Lucifer and is evil.jorgennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513199068907090344.post-40854062976305787042022-05-13T15:32:27.467+00:002022-05-13T15:32:27.467+00:00Judas' betrayal and later suicide is the most ...Judas' betrayal and later suicide is the most shocking event in the Bible for its ugliness and unnatural motivation. It would certainly seem that anti-cosmic forces can manifest in the world, being wholly indefinable and alien even unto themselves. I automatically have more courage facing a wild predator than the inverted mind of such beings. The former requires that I dispense with my power unto powerlessness, the latter to completely shun and thus the danger of being drawn in by inimical being.Christophernoreply@blogger.com