tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513199068907090344.post5286982363022119764..comments2024-03-26T16:24:34.218+00:00Comments on Meeting The Masters: Advaita and ChristianityWilliam Wildbloodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13231219533755925897noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513199068907090344.post-18647440039298336522021-03-09T20:40:47.839+00:002021-03-09T20:40:47.839+00:00Thank you for YOUR reply as well!
I totally agre...Thank you for YOUR reply as well! <br /><br />I totally agree that gnanis of experience have attempted to transmit their experience through written word, which I presume to be nothing more than an attempt to inspire Seekers throughout the ages to seek more steadfastly. I’ll also admit my error in falling for the trap of attempting to intellectualize something that is far beyond the minds ability to conceive. <br /><br />I’ll simply leave you with a quote I found from another Seekers blog post that may hit more close to the mark- at least in my experience, that you may agree agree with, or not. <br /><br />“ OM is precisely the word of the one who in the presence of the mystery can do no more.”Jerod Schmidthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08965453573473702711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513199068907090344.post-29128735470253277312021-03-07T18:38:30.799+00:002021-03-07T18:38:30.799+00:00Thanks for your comment and please forgive me if I...Thanks for your comment and please forgive me if I don't reply at length but this is something I have covered on many occasions over the last several years and if you are interested look at the various posts and comments under the non-duality label on the right here.<br /><br />One thing I will say is that direct perception of reality doesn't mean you have encompassed the whole of reality. It is a pretty basic experience to perceive everything as one and while the jnanis certainly did that they then intellectualised their experience as we all do. When you read an advaita text it is heavily thought produced despite claiming not to be. Also, don't forget that the whole basis of advaita was really founded in the attempt to protect Vedic religion from the onslaught of Buddhism from which it borrowed heavily.<br /><br />When you use the words love and creation in your last paragraph you are smuggling in concepts from elsewhere that cannot really exist in pure advaita except on a neither real nor unreal level. My position is that advaita is a retreat from divine purpose into a pre-creation world thus negating the whole point of the externalisation of being. There can be no purpose, no plan and no real meaning to existence in advaita if it really means what it says.William Wildbloodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13231219533755925897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513199068907090344.post-79266621289308711412021-03-07T03:39:48.359+00:002021-03-07T03:39:48.359+00:00I’d say this is a Christian interpretation of Veda...I’d say this is a Christian interpretation of Vedanta, interpreted in such a way as to make it virtually impossible for Christianity to be anything other than superior to Vedanta. <br /><br />For example, you say that “non-duality does not see the reality in creation as real. It happens as a result of ignorance being super imposed on reality”. This is, as you said about Vedanta, off by a whisker. What is super imposed on Reality THROUGH ignorance, is the unreal world of thought-forms, concepts, concretized assumptions labeled as “belief systems”, and mis-identification of the Self as the body, and the mind along with its content- both of which when identified with, become the “person” or the “personal”. <br /><br />Another important point to consider, is that the perception of Vedanta as an intellectual, conceptually based “idea”, is also wrong- although again, only by a whisker. The important difference here is that TRUE Gnanis haven’t arrived at their perception of Reality through the limited lens of the intellect. Theirs is not a perception of Reality that relies on concepts and ideas, but a direct perception that comes through the dis-identification of the Self with the body, and the mind and it’s content. Although, this can be hard to accept when one has assumed that Reality is to be known through the intellect, or that conceptualizations of Reality can take one even one step toward the Actual. <br /><br />One last thing I’d like to add, is that real Vedanta does NOT deny the reality of the multiplicity, but rather asserts the supremacy and reign of the Absolute, and that the multiplicity is an expression of the Absolute, expressed out of the Love for Creation. Jerod Schmidthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08965453573473702711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1513199068907090344.post-59118755501997899032020-02-01T17:53:37.300+00:002020-02-01T17:53:37.300+00:00Excellent and so true. Thanks William.
https://www...Excellent and so true. Thanks William.<br />https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7280184-thomas-merton-of-course-constitutes-a-special-threat-to-christians<br />Fred Delameilleure<br />BELGIUMLionarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15210329484498543529noreply@blogger.com